Today's interviewee is award-winning comedian and author of Agorafabulous! Dispatches from My Bedroom, a humorous memoir based on her critically acclaimed solo show about panic attacks and agoraphobia.
Sara's television appearances include NBC's Today Show, the CBS Early Show, CNN's Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, MTV News, and CUNY-TV's Brian Lehrer Live. During the 2008 election, she created a splash with her original Sarah Palin vlogs on Huffington Post's humor site, 23/6, a series for which she won an ECNY Award and was nominated for a Webby for best performance, alongside Isabella Rosellini.
From 2006-2008, she hosted Nerve.com's hit Tub Talk
with Sara B., a notorious web-based talk show in which she
interviewed comedians and humor writers in her bathtub. She has since
revamped the show into the web series Gettin'
Wet with Sara Benincasa, and has interviewed guests such as
Margaret Cho and Donald Glover. Each month she also performs the
critically acclaimed live show Family Hour with Auntie
Sara, her critically acclaimed live show, packs the house each
month at the People's Improv Theater.
Were there any other memoirs or books about mental illness that
particularly inspired you before you wrote Agorafabulous?
I really enjoy books by SARK. She writes
these wacky, loopy, colorful self-help/inspiration books, most of which
are reproductions of her handwritten, hand-drawn work. She writes about
depression, addiction, and other fun things. She also writes about
taking joy in everyday life. She inspired me for years, and Dr. Jon
Kabat-Zinn's Full
Catastrophe Living continues to inspire me.
What are some examples of pop culture that got agoraphobia or
mental illness incredibly wrong?
Remember when Jessie Spanow
took too many pills and danced around in Zack's bedroom screaming, "I'm
so excited! That I just can't hide it! I'm so -- SCARED." No one has
ever actually had a breakdown while singing one of the Pointer Sisters'
many thrilling jams. It's physically impossible.
What's comfort food for you these days?
Cereal. Good Lord, does that take me to a special place. Especially
Special K or Kix. I can't do Cap'n Crunch anymore because it's too
dangerous. I can't believe they feed that to little kids. It's the
sharpest cereal and will easily cut your gums. Oh, but it's so
delicious.
Were there any other competitors for Agorafabulous in
terms of a book title?
Nah, Agorafabulous! was pretty much it from the start. I enjoy a
good invented word.
I heard you say in an interview that you needed to change a few
things in the book for legal purposes (which is common for memoir). I'm
not asking for specifics, but what types of things did you need to
change?
Oh, names, exact locations, etc. Had to generalize some stuff. Memoir
can't be journalism, because it involves other people's stories and
lives and they didn't necessarily give me permission to turn them into
book characters.
If you wrote another memoir, one say, about comedy or another
aspect of your life, is there anything you learned in the process of
writing Agorafabulous that you'd apply the next time around?
I'd stay on Prozac the whole time instead of deciding that I was totally
fine, going off the drugs, and then having a mini nervous breakdown
while completing the edits and having to move home to my parents' house
for two months. Best to avoid that sort of thing (note: I'm on so much
Prozac now. It's delicious.)
You shared a lot of intimate information about yourself in the
book. Have there been any instances where it's been uncomfortable to
meet a reader/fan who knows so much about you?
Sometimes people overidentify and think that they really know you in
totality when they only know a certain part of you. Like any author, I'm
a lot more than just one book. But I consider it a real gift when
somebody says "I feel like you're my friend" or "I relate to you so
much" because I know it comes from a really good place. It means they've
connected with the book on a deep emotional level, and that's what I
wanted when I wrote it. I wanted to give people comfort and
companionship.
I've been in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy myself, for different
issues, and I liked that it definitely felt I was doing work on myself,
but it could definitely feel like work. What were some of the most
challenging discussions or "assignments" you were given in therapy?
Talking back to a voice that insists you kill yourself -- that's tough
stuff. It gets tiresome, especially when that voice is in your head
constantly while you're awake. But it's a really important task, and
certainly a worthwhile one.
How do you know now the gray area between feeling a little
antisocial and homey versus something leading to a slippery slope?
Well, when I haven't left the house for 48 hours, I know I need to force
myself. I'm a freelance writer so this is a not uncommon occurrence,
but surely there's some garbage I need to take out after two whole days
of inside-ness. Or maybe I just ought to take a walk around the block.
Sometimes it's enormously hard to get myself to do these basic things.
Again, Prozac is my friend.
You have over 13,000 followers on Twitter. For
Twitterers salivating at the thought of an audience that big, is there
anything you can do to increase your audience, or is trying too hard
instant death?
I'd say liveTweeting major events like the Oscars or a presidential
debate -- those are good ways to pick up more followers. Join in on some
mass social event, get into the conversation, and be funny or profound
or relatable or all three of these things or any two of these things in
combination.
How do you balance social networking time and work time?
For me they are often one and the same, particularly if I'm promoting a
blog post I've done for, say, Vice or XOJaneor
NewNowNext,
or if I'm promoting a live appearance. I definitely spend too much time
on social networking stuff. For example, I'm supposed to be working on a
TV treatment for Agorafabulous! but instead I decided to Facebook chat
my friend Hari
Kondaboluin London. He's actually over there making TV, so our chat
reminded me to get back on task with the treatment. Having highly
motivated friends with whom to waste time online can sometimes end up
being a good thing.
You got your masters in education but you ended up not teaching.
What did you gain from that degree that helped you do what you do now?
I'd say I gained an enormous respect for public school teachers, not
that that particularly influences what I do now. I gained a lot of time
in front of captive audiences, so that was good for comedy. Learned
about some popular YA literature -- also a good thing. Got to immerse
myself in teen culture, which was excellent research for what I'm
working on now.
I hear you're working on a YA book. What challenges have you
found working in that genre that's different from memoir or comedy?
Kids are great B.S. detectors, and they can tell if you're talking down
to them or if you're forcing a theme or a message. It's easy to be
authentic and sound real when you're writing your own true (or mostly
true) stories -- it's harder when you're inventing a world.
If you did a new one-woman show, what do you think the topic
would be?
I used to think it'd be about sex, but now I co-host a podcast called "Sex and
Other Human Activities" and I really get my fill of talking about
that subject. Maybe it'd be about feeling like a lady-impostor because
I'm bad at cooking and cleaning and I don't have a husband or a baby.
But I totally want a husband and a baby and cooking and cleaning skills.
I just don't have any of these things at present. Well, I'm working on
cooking.
Who were some of your favorite interviewees that you had for
Tub Talk and what made them so great?
Well, Tub Talk was on Nerve and I later revamped it as Gettin' Wet with
Sara Benincasa on YouTube. Jonathan
Ames was on Tub Talk, and he was delightful. Reggie
Watts and I had pizza delivered to the bathtub on one Tub Talk
episode. On Gettin' Wet, Neil Gaiman and Amanda
Palmer were pretty fun, and James Urbaniak was
a delight.
Do you do any impressions aside from Sarah Palin?
Michele
Bachmann is my spirit animal.
Who would you recommend as a comedian more people should know?
The aforementioned Hari Kondabolu is a delight. So is my amazing friend Mike Drucker.
I have a theory that there are a lot of women out there who are
feminists but are just afraid to admit it, because they worry doing so
would render them unattractive. What they need just to get used to
saying it, and it thus loses its scariness. Thoughts?
I guess I've never worried about it. I'm a feminist, and I'm hot as
sh*t. Hot as a fresh, steaming pile of dogsh*t on a freezing winter
morning. Mmm, that's real sexy. But yeah, a lot of girls think that if
they call themselves a "feminist" everyone will think they are uptight
and boring and unf*ckable. This is patently untrue. I guess we extremely
hot feminists just need to keep stating who and what we are in order to
hopefully bring some of these other chicks out of the closet.
How does it feel to be the 307th person interviewed for
Zulkey.com?
It feels like my soul has been gently exfoliated. And I thank you for
it.