A few promotey things: my husband Steve Delahoyde made a really dramatic movie called "The Boy with Pink Eye and a Huge Scab on His Forehead Faces a Challenge." It's a minute and a half long and it's a true epic. I've also written a few things for Mom.me this week, including "8 Thoughts I Have in the Final Days of Pregnancy" and "Never Say This One Thing to a Sleep Deprived New Mom."
Today's interviewee is one of the stars of the new Netflix comedy series Grace and Frankie, which stars Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin as friends who get thrown together after their husbands, longtime business partners Martin Sheen and Sam Waterston, confess that they are lovers and intend to get married once they've divorced their wives. (I know the show is all about the ladies but Sam Waterston is so cute on it I can't stand it.) If you are any sort of fan of contemporary comedy you also undoubtedly recognize her from her turn on the Bachelor/Bachelorette parody Burning Love and appearances on shows like New Girl, The League, Kroll Show and NTSF:SD:SUV. She is a regular on one of my favorite podcasts, the love letter to insane/bad movies, How Did This Get Made? which is co-hosted by her husband, noted Zulkey.com interviewee Paul Scheer. Also, the buddy road-trip comedy she made with her friend and comedy partner Casey Wilson, Ass Backwards, is available on iTunes. One final thing of hers I want to plug: if you are a newish mom, I recommend checking out her recent visit on the podcast Totally Laime: she and her friend Elizabeth Laime talk about new motherhood in a way that is brutally honest yet loving and sincere.
I learned that you auditioned for Grace and Frankie when you were just three weeks postpartum. How soon after having the baby did you start taping the show?
I remember going to the first table read when the baby was, I think, 11 weeks old. And I was late to it because I was pumping in the dressing room, and I walked in and Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin and Martin Sheen were all sitting there, and it was like, "I have no right to be late." So it was really an intense period for me personally but also a really great job to have be the first thing I went back to.
I can imagine how tired and frazzled you must have been, but did you find that there was any part of new motherhood kind of helped you in that process in working on the show?
I was really overwhelmed, but I thought, "Gosh, I love the script." And I wasn't going to read anything during that time, but my agent sent it to me, because he thought it was really great. I just thought, "You know what, I am gonna go, because I memorized the lines." It's so sad, but that was really the reason why I got in that car. The words just came very easily to me: I just knew what my character was going to say next.
There is something interesting about having a child and being an actor. Usually you're kind of pretending to not care, like, "Oh, it doesn't matter, whatever happens." But I truly didn't care. I think it helped me in a lot of ways -- it was such a raw time for me that I felt like I just didn't have time for the neuroses and the self-criticism. I just had to go forth with not enough time to worry about it. And I think that kind of came across, and that was also right for the character. So I was thrilled that it all worked out. I think I read the scene once and I left. It was that quick and easy, and then I was offered the job.
What have you learned from the other people on the show so far?
It's just so wonderful to watch these actors work and to see everybody's process and how different they are. The big lesson for me is seeing these incredible actors really take feedback and direction quite well. They're loose and easy: it's not about ego.That was a real lesson for me, and because I think they're coming from such a place of confidence anyway, that whoever wants to give an idea can give it and it's fine either way. Nobody's imploding. So for me that was a really important lesson about working and seeing how all four of them really have that spirit of collaboration and that inner confidence in their own craft.
Was there anything about working on a Netflix series made it feel different to you than previous projects you'd worked on?
Yeah, definitely. I didn't really see any executives there. They were at the table read and stuff, but they were wonderfully hands off, letting the creators do their thing. On network TV, just guest star stuff I've done, and there's this presence, where they come out and give notes, that can be pretty intimidating. It sounds crazy, like the Netflix executives just weren't around, but that's actually like a very powerful and active way to support a show is to just simply let the creators do their thing. It was very different.
You and your friend and creative partner Casey Wilson have worked together through so many life changes: how has getting married and having kids affected your working relationship?
I think we're definitely more precious about our time. Creatively, there's a shift for both of us into a new chapter of our lives. Ass Backwards was very much about our friendship in our mid-20s in New York City and that's not really where we are anymore. And so the next thing will be the next thing. I'm excited for her, too, to go through [having a baby] because we're already talking a lot about it, and I'm sure, creatively, it's something we'll want to dive into as well.
There's also so much comedy in motherhood and in even marriage. I was sort of resistant to playing "mom" roles before I had a baby -- also the other thing, in Hollywood, you just get aged up way before you should. I do believe an actor can play whatever she wants, and you don't have to go through the experience to relate it. But at the same time, I do feel like I just have so much more to say, and it's what I'm interested in.
When you have any free time and you're not watching a movie for How Did This Get Made, what do you watch for fun?
I have some really dirty TV habits that are not great. I definitely get up on the Real Housewives. There's just something about seeing these women -- at their best they're real character studies. I'm like, "Wow, I can't believe I get to see these people behaving like this." And then second season, they know they're on TV, there's that element where they think the stakes are higher. It's just so interesting to me, and I love watching them.
But I also watch a lot of documentaries, although, it's funny, and I don't know if this is since having a baby, I can't really do drama, heavy stuff anymore.
I have been watching a lot of comedies. Paul and I were on a real Eddie Murphy jag the other week, and just watched Nutty Professor, Beverly Hills Cop, just so enjoying him. I'm really wanting that in my life right now, to laugh. And so I've been watching a lot of big joyful performances, and I'm loving it.
Have there been any movies that you've always wanted to talk about on How Did This Get Made that you guys haven't ever gotten around to or have gotten shot down?
To be honest, I don't really pick them or nominate them. Most of them are not really in my frame of reference. A lot of these I've just like seen for the first time with the podcast. The podcast is an interesting thing, because I love movies so much. I'm very sensitive to criticism. I don't want people to think we're just attacking these movies. It's with so much joy and love for movies that we approach them. And that's been cool for me, because a lot of these movies I would never see, I would never, ever watch. I've certainly enjoyed Fast Five.
Who does the baby think is funnier, you or Paul?
Oh, Paul for sure. "I guess I'm the person who just sits here and watches you two laugh." I'm comfortable as the straight man. I will say though I think he laughs more when I'm around, like he sort of needs to feel like the permission But I'm sort of telling myself that.
How does it feel to be the 408th person interviewed for Zulkey.com?
It feels really good. I'm wondering what took so long.