Today is the day to give me a bite of your hot dog.
I bet you thought I had forsaken the Zulkey.com interview. Well, I haven't. Good interview subjects can be hard to come by sometime, but fortunately, not today, especially when one comes recommended by somebody super-cool. Today's author is a writer for the Wall Street Journal and a Yankee fan living in Chicago, but we won't hold that against him, since he wrote the much-heralded biography of Lou Gehrig, Luckiest Man.
The Jonathan Eig Interview: Just Under Twenty Questions
How did you gain access to Lou Gehrigs letters for
Luckiest Man?
I was looking through baseball auction catalogs for anything Gehrig might
have touchedbaseball caps, personal checks, used hankiesanything
that would give me a glimpse of his life. I learned, for example, that Gehrig
had a very small head (cap size: 7 1/8), and paid $2,000 for a Packard convertible
in 1936. Then I hit pay dirt. One catalog listed a batch of letters that Gehrig
wrote to his doctor at the Mayo Clinic. Id been trying for months to
get the Mayo to turn over Gehrigs medical records, with no luck. So
I knew I had to see these letters. It took me six months of reporting (by
which I mean begging, whining and bribing) before I was able to figure out
who had purchased those letters at the auction. I called the owner of the
letters, and after a few minutes of begging and whining (no bribing), he generously
agreed to let me have copies. It turned out there were 200 pages of letters,
and only a few people had ever seen them. No one had ever published them.
They were more beautiful and more heartbreaking than I ever could have imagined.
How did the prior owner of the letters acquire them?
Gehrigs doctor probably gave the letters to his son or daughter. The
son or daughter probably decided to sell them. A big auction house conducted
the sale, and the letters were purchased for about $40,000 by a guy from Baltimore
who owns a construction company.
What exactly is a Picayune?
A small Spanish coin, worth about six cents. Its also the name of
a newspaper, The Times-Picayune of New Orleans, home to some of the
finest reporters and photographers in American journalism.
After reading your book, my dad thinks that Lou Gehrigs life was
less interesting than his death. Do you agree?
Who am I to argue with your dad? The fact is, if Gehrig hadnt died young,
Im certain I would not have been interested in telling his story. He
was a pretty ordinary guy for most of his life, apart from the fact that he
was extraordinarily handsome and incredibly gifted as an athlete. Even his
most remarkable recordthe streak of 2,130 consecutive gameswas
pretty tedious, if you think about it. But given that I knew how the story
was going to end, with this horrible illness, Gehrigs relative dullness
became an asset to my story. The fact that he remained so humble, and even
managed to seem invisible at times, made him a much more subtle and interesting
subject for me. It wasnt easy to keep such a low profile, yet he seemed
to work at it very hard. So what happened when he got sick--when he had more
reason than ever to disappear from view? He stepped up to the plate and delivered
one of the most courageous and memorable speeches in American history. I still
get choked up when I think about it.
My dad says that he also read your book as he watched a show on Mickey
Mantle, and he thinks that Mantles life was more tragic than Gehrigs.
What think you of that?
As much as I admire your dad, I wish he wouldnt try to read and watch
TV at the same time.
Do you think its a pretty lazy interview technique to let my Dad
contribute questions?
It depends. Did he come up with the picayune question?
No. Who would you write a biography of next?
Id love to write another biography. Its a great way to look at
how character is formed, how cultural trends shape lives, and how relationships
influence personalities and events. Its a nice way to get a slice of
history. But finding a worthy subject is no easy trick. Im still working
on it. If your readers have any suggestions, they
can email me.
Who are some of your favorite baseball players today?
I like guys who overcome obstacles, including Jorge
Posada (funny ears), David Eckstein (the
shortest guy in the bigs, I think), Bernie Williams (he recorded an
album of smooth-jazz guitar, poor guy), and Melvin Mora (he and his wife
have quintuplets).
How did Seabiscuit
inspire you to write Luckiest Man?
It was a terrific book in so many ways. But it occurred to me as I was reading
that the sportswriters covering all those horse races back in the 1930s were
the equivalent of free laborers for Laura Hillenbrand. In effect, she had
a dozen reporters following her subject around, and all she had to do was
organize their notes and craft them into a beautiful narrative. Writing a
book was just that simple! While I was reading her book I began to wonder
if I could use the beat writers who covered the Yankees to pull off the same
trick with Gehrig. The only problem, as I soon discovered, was that Gehrig
didnt talk much more than Seabiscuit. So I had my work cut out for me.
How long did it take for you to write and research Luckiest Man? Did you
research first, then write or do it in tandem?
I spent a year on the proposal. After selling the book to Simon & Schuster,
the book took another two years. I did a lot of research, and then I started
writing. But I kept reporting throughout the writing process. Every time I
tried to write a passage, it raised more questions and helped me see the holes
in my story. So I would go out and do more research. For me, writing and reporting
are distinct yet inseparable, like Ernie and Bert.
Can you tell us about Lou Gehrigs attempts to go Hollywood?
He initially tried out for the role of Tarzan, but the producers took a look
at his massive thighs and decided they would frighten away rather than attract
women. Fortunately for Gehrig, the producers made no comment on his enormous
rear end, which had earned him the nickname Biscuit Pants when
he first joined the Yankees. Gehrig did get to play a cowboy in a Western
called Rawhide, which co-starred Smith Ballew as a singing, gun-toting
attorney. They dont make em like that anymore, and for good reason.
Do you think Gehrigs somewhat passive relationships with his mother
and wife would be regarded with more criticism if it occurred today, less,
the same?
Its difficult to imagine how Gehrig would be perceived today, in
part because its difficult to imagine a young man remaining so shy and
unassuming when confronted with the wealth and fame todays game supplies.
But lets put it this way: If Barry Bonds were to announce that he was
turning over his business decisions to his wife and that he was going to start
spending less time with his physical trainer and more with his mother, I suspect
his image would be tremendously enhanced.
What are some of your favorite baseball books?
I love The
Natural, by Malamud. The
Glory of their Times by Lawrence Ritter is fantastic. And I cant
get enough of Roger Angells various compilations.
Can you name a beloved-by-many baseball player who you think was overrated?
Reggie Jackson comes to mind, but Im not sure he was all that beloved.
In Wiffle Ball, its my brother Matt, without a doubt.
How do you think the steroid
scandal will appear to baseball fans twenty, thirty years from now?
I think ballplayers will be on much better drugs by then, and we will all
look back on this era in awe, wondering how Bonds, McGwire and Sosa managed
to hit so many home runs given the lousy quality of juice available.
As a journalist, what have been some of the most fun stories to cover,
and which have been some of the most difficult?
One of my first stories for the Times-Picayune was one of the most difficult,
and also one of the most fun. I was assigned to follow a bunch of city officials
from New Orleans to New York and, without being detected, watch how much money
they spent on entertainment. I used disguises such as Man in Trench
Coat and Man in Trench Coat with Hat. I even employed my
mother as a spy. She chatted with some of the city officials in the lobby
of their hotel and asked them where they were going to dinner so that I could
follow them there. I followed them to Little Italy, to a theater on Broadway
(We saw Fences with Billy
Dee Williams).
My dad did the driving. When I got back to New Orleans I called and told them
theyd been followed and asked to see their expense reports. They were
not happy.
How does Chicago compare to New York as a baseball town?
New York fans are louder, and tougher, and perhaps more savvy. Chicago fans
(and I should acknowledge here that I root most passionately for the Yankees
but share a Cubs season-ticket package with friends) have just about cornered
the market in suffering, and, like the Jews, their suffering has helped forge
the core of their identity. Yet, oddly, Chicago fans dont boo
much. They complain, but theyre pretty polite about it.
White Sox?
2005? (Of course as I write this they just dropped two games to the Kansas
City Royals, of all teams.
Sorry, but the White Sox dont have the pitching to win it all. Come
to think of it, they dont have the hitting either.
How does it feel to be the 127th person interviewed for Zulkey.com?
I feel like the 127th luckiest man on the face of the earth. Which is still
pretty darned lucky.
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