Today is the day to play Donkey Kong.
Today's interviewee is the author of four novels, the most current of which is a semi-autobiographical novel called Happy Baby, about growing up in a series of group homes as a ward of the State of Illinois (he attended Northwestern University and the University of Illinois.) He also writes regularly for McSweeney's and was active with MoveOn and the 2004 Presidential campaign.
The Stephen Elliott Interview: Just Under Twenty Questions
Happy Baby was not originally titled as such. What made you
change the title?
The original
title turned out to be the name of a famous short story.
Do you miss the Midwest much?
Not really. I've been in San Francisco for a long time now.
This seems like a good time to be a fan of Illini
basketball; are you on the bandwagon?
I'm in! I'm with the winning team!
You say that you didnt study English as an undergrad. What were
you studying, what were you hoping to pursue?
I was studying history. I was interested in modern revolutions, particularly
Soviet history.
Do you approach your nonfiction differently than your fiction? It seems
like its more daunting to write full-length nonfiction, if its
not a memoir.
Non-fiction is way easier than fiction.
When you set out to write Happy Baby, did you intend to write it in reverse
chronological order?
I didn't have any plans. I hadn't thought that far ahead. But that's how I
ended up writing it.
You were very involved with Moveon.org and the election. Will you stay
active through 08 or are you going to take a rest?
I'm going to stay active.
Who would you like to see make a run for President in 08?
I like Eliot Spitzer and Barrack Obama, but I don't think either of them will
run in '08.
You say in an interview that you hadnt read Andrew
Sean Greers book because you dont want that to possibly hurt
your relationship. Is that a policy you have, not to read your friends
work?
No. It's an ongoing joke between me and Andrew.
Another Chicago writer, Nathan
Rabin, is an alumnus of Campbell house although you two seem
to have had very different experiences. Do you think there was something in
particular about that home that spawned writers or just coincidence?
I think it's a coincidence.
From what I read in your
interview with Identity Theory, you wrote three books almost by accident
and then sold two of them. It was never difficult to spend so much time working
on such large works without thinking about if they were going to be published,
let alone a success?
I was really writing them for my friends. I didn't think I was publishable.
You worked as a stripper in Chicago. Had you been to a female strip club
before you began stripping? Did your stint change your mentality towards them?
Yes, I had been to strip clubs, but not excessively. I had actually worked
for a live sex show in Amsterdam and at a dirty bookstore in Chicago before
becoming a stripper. I don't know if it changed my mentality toward strippers.
I don't think I ever looked down on strippers.
You say that you do a lot of editing and re-reading of your own work.
Do you ever let your work sit for a while before you go back to it? Thats
like tip #8 on the how to write a novel pamphlet they hand out.
Sure. But sometimes I let it sit and then I forget about it and it never gets
finished. Each book has its own pace and of course what you're doing in life
has a lot to do with it too.
Do you still lead fiction workshops? What do you do to keep them flowing?
Are they mostly positive or do the students snipe at each other much?
Yes. I teach at Stanford in the continuing studies program and the undergraduates.
I've never led a graduate workshop or been in one so I don't know that much
about the competition. I don't find much sniping. The adults just want to
get back to being creative. A lot of people stop being creative in their twenties
as they chase careers. And the kids don't compete in my workshop, primarily
because I don't grade them on their stories. I grade them on their participation.
Is there anything pleasant about sleeping on the roof of a convenience
store?
No. Well, I take that back. When you're young and homeless you can stay out
as late as you want. You can drink and do drugs and crawl onto the roof at
three in the morning. The only thing that's going to wake you up for school
is the sun.
Who are your favorite fiction and nonfiction writers?
Can I name all of them? I always feel like I'm leaving somebody out so I've
been keeping a list. How about David Amsden, Michelle Tea, Ryzard Kapuscinski,
Cormac McCarthy, Tobias Wolff, Dave Eggers, V.S. Naipaul, Hunter Thompson,
Arthur Neresian, Alicia Erian, Julie Orringer, J.M. Coatzee, Gina Kolata.
Nick Flynn, Jim Shepard, Phillip Gourevitch, Zak Muncha especial Zak
Muncha (check out his book, The Beggar's Shore), Denis Johnson, Tom Bissell,
Adam Johnson, Jane Ransom, JT Leroy, Dorothy Allison, Andrew Vachss, Charles
Bukowski, Hemingway (of course), Sylvia Plath (The Bell Jar), George Orwell,
James Ellroy, John Fante, Kevin Canty, Knut Hampson, Marguerite Duras, Mary
Gaitskill, Maxim Gorky, Michael Chabon, Nelson Algren, Paul LaFarge, Dennis
Cooper, Somerset Maughan, Thomas Friedman (yes, the New York Times columnist),
ZZ Packer, Jennifer Traig, Anthony Swofford, and Vaclav Havel
How does it feel to be the 117th person interviewed for Zulkey.com?
It feels good. Like I've finally made it.